Emigration to Australia

This little collection is a combination of emails and notes I’ve written to friends or in reply to posts on forums with regard to emigration - particularly with Brisbane in mind.   It still needs structuring and editing into some nice webpages but for the moment, here it all is in one jumble, with headings.

Three years on and I still haven't tidied up this web page! However, although it is not yet structured with links and multiple pages, I have added various topics and brought it up to date in respect of house prices etc (Aug '04). I'll add a nice load of photos too.

If you’d like to be kept update when this page changes, please send me an email. I've had many many emails from people thanking me for putting this all up, some of whom we have kept in contact and some who we have met and some who now live here... Thanks for all your responses!.... I'm glad it has been of use... and yes... we still love it here!.

OzTim in Brisbane

tim@oztogo.com

 

Arrival time

Perhaps the best time could perhaps be to arrive is the height of summer, so that your children start the new year at the end of January along with all of the other children– just time for your last Christmas and New Year back home!   You would of course arrive in very hot weather, but we found it OK and our son found having a frozen water bottle with him at school (they all have them at primary school) compensated for 30+ degrees in the classroom.  It’s such a big change of life that it probably perhaps it doesn’t really matter when you join because you are bound to settle in and catch up.  I’d certainly aim for a couple of weeks off to get settled for the kids before starting school. If your home/rental doesn't have aircon then you may be in for a bit of a shock... but as long as one room has got it, you should be ok. When we arrived, we didn't have aircon from week 3 to week 6 but got along with fans just fine.

Of course if you arrive between April and September, it's going to be cooler and your children won't experience the incredible change of sitting in a classroom at 35 degrees, with their frozen water bottle sitting next to them on the desk. Don't worry about the kids though... they seem to hardly notice the change and our 10 yr old son found the heat to be no problem when we arrived in the height of the summer.

Humidity and Temperature

Humidity?. I hear a number of people saying or asking if the climate in Brisbane is unbearably humid. Well I would say it's rarely "unbearable" - no, never really. This has just got to be the best climate in the world! Not so hot it's unbearable, and really very pleasant during the day in winter. We arrived on January 18th 2000 and were told it had been unusually mild - being only about 29 degrees. The next day the heatwave hit and it was 42 degrees max for 3 days running! We were in and out of the car, searching for property, in and out of the heat so we experienced just about the hottest Brisbane has to offer... and really it was fine despite being sweaty. Of course it was more pleasant when it cooled down to 35.

You know when it's a humid day when you step out of the car and your glasses instantly mist up! because the airon blasting at your face made the glasses cold, causing condensation to form on them straight away.

Not one to like the cold much, (though I do like skiing), we enjoyed hot days in England and bought a fan when it looked like it was going to stay above 28 degrees for a while. Here, hot days are the norm, and there are a few days that stand out as being sticky, with a sticky evening too up near 30 deg overnight.  But that happens in England too once in a while.  If you have an elevated property you get more breeze which makes it very comfortable.  Most houses have fans and honestly you very quickly get used to a 35 degree day and can feel quite comfortable if the air is moving.   You may notice some sweat trickling down, maybe just a single drip!... but for some strange reason it doesn't seem a problem like it might have in the UK. Even stranger, on a 30 degree day you can genuinely feel cool, yet still notice some sweat, you just get used to it and of course there's usually aircon in cars and offices.. Sitting in my study, I certainly did keep finding it was sticky up to mid March, until I realised I was trying to get by without a fan and the air was completely still in there... a simple fan solved the problem 100%. Get out in the sun however, and it's baking! but nevertheless as long as you are drinking and have suncream on, it's manageable and after an hour or two's gardening strimming, weeding etc, you just have to have another shower. Put it this way - I would far rather face gorgeous heat which you can deal with by shade, fans, drinking and aircon, than miserable, freezing, bitter, harsh, painful and icy cold weather ! Typical weather forcast for 4months mid Nov-mid April : Mon 35, Tue 35, Wed 34, Thu 36, Fri 37. You look at the weather and think - ah just a nother nice day - a touch warm on Friday ! Another forecast - Mon 35, 32, 30, 31, 30 Thoughts : Wow, quite cool midweek!

Note that above temparatures are the maximum - typically from around 2pm to 4pm, measured in the shade. Step out into the sun and it's about 10 degrees hotter in the Summer, and 4 degrees hotter in the winter. In a closed parked car, it can quickly be 15-20 degrees hotter than the outside air temperature in the summer. You get used to returning to an oven and driving off with the windows open, fan blasting, to cool it down - then close the windows and let the aircon do it's work after a few minutes. Can you do without aircon? Well yes, of course - we have friends, both OZ and UK expats, without aircon in their cars and it doesn't seem to be a problem; a friend's broke down and he didn't get around to having it fixed for 2 months.... we feel you can survive heat more than you can survive cold! You can easily identify cars driving around with aircon - they're the ones with the windows wound up !

In spite of what I heard, that I wouldn't have said Samford is any hotter than anywhere else and haven't found the beach 40 mins away to be noticeably cooler. However, I did discuss this with an Ozzy mate (an aircon specialist by coincidence!) and he confirmed that it is typically 2 degrees hotter here than say at Aspley just 11 miles away (8 miles as the crow flies). Well in over 4 years we didn't notice… but hey….is there really much difference between 34 and 36 ??! Of course, every area has local temperature variations and elevated areas should get more breeze (which more than compensates for an extra 2 deg). I've heard a number of friends saying they had an early morning frost in winter in the village!, but in 4 years I have never seen one with my lowest outside temperature reading for the year being 2.8.

Where to Stay in Brisbane if visiting

House rentals simply aren't usually available except for long term, usually requesting a year's rental!  Hotels in Brisbane are almost always available - have a look at www.wotif.com for deals - always about half price booking just a few weeks before going. I think the pub in Samford is also a hotel.  There's even a B&B here in Samford, and probably a few more dotted around the area. We might be persuaded to rent out for a week ourselves at certain times if you want a large house, mountain views, to enable us to take a short vacation at the same time)! .
 I'd spend up to a week on the Gold Coast at the Mercure Resort (not the Grand Mecure) or a 5* hotel on Surfers Paradise (using wotif.com of course to get $100 a night room), which is good for children. Using the cheap deals on wotif, you often don't get breakfast included, and at $25 a head it can really add up, so it's much cheaper to take a stroll to a beachfront cafe and have all you can eat breakfast for $9 each.  While on the Gold Coast, you could go to one or two theme parks -Dreamworld, Movieword, Seeworld, Wet&Wild..... and also try and book an appartment in Noosa on the Sunshine Coast for say 3 days. We stayed at Le Court Villas,Noosaheads,  3bed apart Tel +61 7 5447 4522  $240/2nights, $320 for 3 nights    www.lecourtvillas.com.au and hired a boat to go on the river.  A day trip to Noosa from Brisbane isn’t out of the question, it’s not that far and could be convenient if you want a single base and not have to cart around suitcases all holiday. Don't miss out a visit to the villages of Montville and Maleny on the way up to Noosa- very nice mountain villages with Antique shops, a German pub etc. Perhaps visit Redcliffe, Scarborough and you could find the fish and chip shop on Bribie Island which is v.good!

Spiders and creepycrawlies

My wife was petrified of spiders in England. Before we were married, a big spider in her flat in Southampton meant she would scream, and up and leave to go to her mum's, until I got there to deal with it. When living together, she still hated any spider in the room and refused to go near letting out a huge scream, and prefered to get out of the room - my son likewise. These were two big obstacles to thinking about coming out here. 

However, they really have got used to it, I'd say after 4-6 monhs - and now casually observe a big spider and allow me to deal with it without panic, which is an amazing change! I'm sure most people don't like them, but the Huntsmans aren't dangerous, though I expect they could bite but on the whole all the creepy crawleys are more afraid of you and tend to stay out of your way. It's when you go to bed and suddenly see a huge one on the wall that gives you the creeps! Of course you are meant to shut the screen doors but the weather is so nice that often you throw windows/doors open and forget about them. So many times we've come upstairs to bed to find the verandah doors wide open, at which point we do have a check of the curtains and other places for creepy crawleys. But really in 2.5 years, it's only happened about 6 times, and it generates a bit of excitement catching the thing and killing it!. Yes of course they are not nice looking! and I'm sure very few people actually like them...but my wife no longer screams and runs out of the room. There's another spider here which is very creepy looking - cabbage like and light green with a dome for a body. We've only seen that 3 or 4 times and they are just as easy to catch.

One of the things you'll notice when you go in the supermarket, as well as the huge variety of chocolate, is the huge variety of bug sprays! Some barrier spray for outside helps keep spiders and ants from crawling in, and any general spray inside slows the spiders down until you can squash them. Those huntsman are quite bulky... they don't just squash down to nothing... there's quite a bit left! Once the thing is immobilised, I put toilet paper over it and then smash it! When we moved in and first looked up at our verandahs, there were little beige blobs all over it... looking like blobs of chewing gum! We learnt these were spiders eggs..... and the easy answer... pressure spray... gets rid of them real quick! It's just another thing to bear in mind when you are clearing up outside! You can also spray the house, or get it sprayed professionally... inside and out. Inside, someone comes and sprays cupboards, cracks everything.... I'm not sure what they use. Outside, they spraw all around the gutters, under the eaves, under the verandahs etc. It certainly seems to keep it much clearer of spiders. I have done this myself using "Pidgeon's Pest Controller 500" Group 1B insectiside – “professional use only - not for residential use” plus a host of serious warnings on the bottle.

Now Redbacks are the poisonous spiders that you do get sometimes - and they don't look scary because they are fairly small and thin - yet after a while, you begin to feel casual about that too..... treating them really only as significant as a wasp - ie something you avoid but just stay calm and deal with it if you happen to see one.  The main thing to watch for is perhaps look under your outdoor furniture if you're about to move it. Spray under there too once in a while... also in the corners of your garage or shed, they like going there. A couple of years ago, we seemed to be getting quite a few redbacks in the house, until we found the crack where they were and sprayed inside. We didn't see any for over a year, then just last week we found one in the garage. He's disappeared before we could get rid of him so I've left a can of bug spray nearby, ready for him.

Once my wife called on the mobile in fright, in our 4th month here, - saying a really fast and absolutely massive spider had just run across the living room...she claimed it was as big as a mouse- so I had to come back from my friend's house to find my wife perched feet up on a chair....and we searched the edge of the living room for it. I was quite edgy myself having heard the size... but it turned out that it really was a mouse after all. 

Quite honestly, spiders are easy to deal with and you will find the fear eases up fast...just spray them to slow them down, then squash them! and you really won't find too many though it's amazing how far they can stretch a web across two trees 20 metres apart.

We did have a spider appear in the car just once as we were about to get back in... and it started to rain. I had to run back to the supermarket and buy some spray.. then come back and try and search under the seats. Quite a difficult job as they know you're after them... but knowing it was in there, there was absoutely no way we were about to drive anywhere! On that subject... it's a good idea not to leave the car doors open at home.... and invitation for a snake to come in. Not that it's likely, just something you don't do !

Now it's the ants that are the real problem! They all bite... just stand still on the barefoot for a while, and you could well get bitten. But a large black ant or a green ant bites painfully and the pain is around 50% of a wasp sting in intensity. If one gets stuck in your shoes it carries on biting and you soon know about it !  But it doesn't stop you sitting down for a picnic... but the moment an ant appears, brush it away quick! You can get "ant sand" to sprinkle over your brick paths to get rid of them. If your child runs up crying and obviously been bitten - get their teeshirt off and make sure there aren't any more ants crawling around. Our 2 years old daughter was bitten by quite a few for a couple of minutes, crying like mad, until we realised they were still there and brushed them off!

If you are actually right by trees - within metres of the property, then you might get more creepycrawlies. Otherwise I don't think you get more in rural areas... in fact funnily enough we've not seen a big spider (only the one redback) inside for 6 months. But they are all bigger than in the UK! – just have some spray handy.

Snakes – seen a few – they are very timid and stay away from you – but don’t approach them and you’ll be fine. My wife hasn’t seen one in 2.5 years. I saw a python in the undergrowth – if I was in England I would have called the zoo! In fact a snake did chase my friend on his tractor, but honestly encounters are so few and far between or non existent that I wouldn’t worry about it. I hear that some friends see a snake... it all depends on the vegetation around you.

Kids here in Oz grow up knowing these things exist, so they take some natural precautions that your kids might not. So keep warning them in the first year, such as getting them to walk around, not shortcut through some bushy area with long grass, and intentionally worrying them that there may be a snake there to allow them to build their own defenses. Best idea is to stay away from long grass and undergrowth... if it's on your property.... get that mower out!! If it's not easy to mow, use a "whipper snipper" or "brushcutter" (strimmer)!

The sound of insects at night while it's hot (Sep-Apr), is amazing! Continuous jungle sounds as if someone has put 360 degree surround speakers outside... except it's for real! Also the birds have some very strange sounds too, all very distinctive. Pop outside to throw something in the bin and hear some thudding around your feet, which will make you jump at first - but then you'll find it's almost certainly just the Cain toads which come out at night during the summer and mostly stay out of the light. I still wonder where they all go during the day. Some are massive and we've had a couple thud up against the patio doors once in a while! Australians hate Cain toads and treat them as a pest and try to introduce you to some nasty traditions such as hitting them with golf clubs. I'm sure far more get squished just driving up and down the drive. They wither away to a crispy shell very quickly in the sun!

After over two years here, having got used to just about everything creepy crawly that could be thrown at us, we went to a friends house for afternoon BBQ. We had just been for a walk at Mount Glorious and it had been a bit muddy up there, and I was only wearing sandals. After some excitement with finding redbacks under their furniture that they thought they'd got rid of the day before, we suddenly saw the most disgusting slimy dark, fat worm like creature inching its way across the patio. Someone stepped on it and red blood oozed all over the tiles. Where the hell did that come everyone wondered? After looking around, I looked down and saw a second one right there on my foot, between two toes. I couldn't believe it, having driven for 20 minutes since ending the walk, both of them must have been there all the time..... a leech ! It was having a wonderful meal and we poured salt on its back and I think sprayed it too. Why me ???!! I thought.... and subsequently squashed that one too creating even more blood this time. The area itched for about 2 months! Well I understand that this could equally well have happened in England in a damp area, but it goes down as another Australian creepy crawly story for me!

There's another creepy thing too which happened... which I hear could equally well have happened in England, though I never came across them. Ticks! They don't just go on cats and dogs.... they get on you too if you've been in the bush so if you've been pushing through hedges, trees etc, best to check yourself when you get back inside. These things are called paralysis ticks... tiny little things with a head 3-4 mm and a curved beak. It burrows its beak and practically the whole head into your skin and you have no idea at all it is there. Then they feed off the blood, and the body gets bigger and bigger. On cats and dogs apparently it can make them lethargic and then become ill, possibly paralysed, and can even die if they are on for too long. On humans, though the most likely outcome is an itchy area... it depends on how well you get it off. They're really difficult to remov and there's conflicting advice... some say don't pull it off... spray them with bug spray so they eventually let go voluntarily and just be patient. Others say use tweezers and grab the head taking care not to squeeze the body, and patiently tease it out, rotating the correct way and pulling back gently. Whatever.. do it wrong and apparently as it knows it's going to die, it may regurgitate toxins through it's beak back into your skin. There are a whole host of allergic symptoms that can result - including massive swelling or worse.... up to 2 weeks later and even potential for serious diseases. I did completely the wrong thing. After some heavy duty hedge trimming work, I had a shower and noticed this thing on my knee. After 30 seconds of just knowing I shouldn't do anything rash... I couldn't stand it any longer because it gave me the creeps. Just touching it showed it was quite alive, wriggling it's tiny legs and intently burrowiing in further!, so I just grabbed it and pulled it off by hand. They are very difficult to get out and the head & beak remained. I tried to pull the remains out with tweezers but it just seemed locked in there. Having read about the possible allergic reactions I decided to go to the doctor by which time it seemed to have gone under the skin. The doctor used a small local anasthetic so she could burrow around and got a small piece out and lectured me on how I had done the wrong thing! Was advised to take antihistamine just in case... though I didn't bother. Only happened once to me and I'm more careful now if pushing through hedges to check and brush myself down... but our friend had one on her back and our daughter had one too on her scalp, and our cat had one too - we got these off without trouble. I guess we didn't live in such a country area in England or do enough gardening for this to have been a risk to us. Not happened again having now been here for over 4.5 years.
Oh - there's some scary huge grasshoppers here too...gives you a huge fright when one takes off right near you !

Of course, in the winter, this all calms down … no insect sounds, no spiders, no snakes, hardly even an ant – though we never seem to escape the magpies who come down to scavenge for our chickens’ and dog’s food.

Can’t get:

Readybreak

Weetabix - similar product "Weet-bix" shaped as a rectangle, not rounded, is a bit more coarse and doesn't soak hot milk quickly, which you want for babies.

Farleys rusks, only teething rusks which don't turn to porridge.

Prawn cocktail flavoured crisps or Skips

Melt in your mouth snacks, only crunchy crisps not too good for one year olds. (though we can find things similar to cheese puffs)

Robinsons squash - only cordials or "orange drink"

Hazlenut yoghurt. My favourite! The closest you can find is hazelnut and vanilla yoghurt -  1 in a multipack of 6.

2 in 1 Pantene shampoo/conditioner - separate bottles only

2 in 1 shampoos other makes, very thin on the ground.

large independant baby shops such as Mothercare/Adams - ony baby sections in big department stores.

Toothkind or Light Rebena - only original.

PAMPERS nappies - only Huggies which are good too - tried Snugglers which are 50% of the price, but always leaves residue, jelly crystals yuk !

Calpol but they do have other liquid paracetamol products

Strawberry Sherbets - (Sherbet lemons very hard to find but are available) - we now have our second 3kg jar sitting in the fridge which I brought back with us last time we visited England.

Strawberry, lemon or toffee bonbons –

Sherbet pips.

Marmite – Used to get it and here the UK imported product is called "Our Mate" !! in the same recognisable bottle. It's not been available for one and a half years - but has just reappeared in small jars only May 2002. Usual Australian product here is Marmite from Sanitarium, with a very different taste - ewwwwuuuugh !!!. Closest taste to UK marmite is Vegemite though that leaves an awful aftertaste. When a friend comes over, we always ask for a giant jar of marmite.

Bovril – wasn’t available for ages after the mad cow scares but from late 2002 it has resurfaced.   Similar product is Kraft "Bonov"... but it's a little gelatinous and if spread on toast doesn't look the same. Tried it... tastes good, but the gooey consistency put me off , so best for making drinks I guess. Just an aside - everyone does put Bovril on toast right ?... or was it just our family??! It's always advertised as a drink, but bovril on hot buttered toast always tasted great.

Large Johnsons baby bath - have to buy two small bottles instead.

Large packets of burgers (max 4 ! or 6 lean, occasionally 20pack of cheaper brand)

Large packs of frozen chips (750g or 1kg maximum !!!)

Large pots of Sandwich Spread (UK import occasionaly available in larger supermarkets – but just like marmite and Bovril, only available in tiny jars)

I saw an article for people going the other way - leaving Australia and coming to London and was intrigued to see that they too felt the "essential foods are simply not available"... and noted the following:

    "a decent hamburger  with the lot"     (You mean beetroot!! An “Aussie” burger typically adds fried egg and beetroot along with the salad – easy enough to knock up!)

    Chiko rolls

    Twisties – (Try Nik Naks - similar shapes and strong flavours)

    Burger Rings – (there are burger flavour football crisps but I don't remember the name)

    Snakes Alive – (Hey! Starburst Rattlesnakes are the best, and Starburst (used to be called 'Opal Fruits') are in England)

    Redskins - try Fruit Salads or "Drumsticks" (chewy lollipops)

    Cheezels - not the same shape but even better product I the UK is "Wotsits"

    Freddo frogs - (yes they do have these in England)

    Cherry Ripes - (yes they do!)

    Violet Crumbles - yuk!  True - not in the UK thankfully!

    Paddle Pop ice creams - lots of similar ones like "mini milks"

    Four'n Twenty Pies – (there are loads of pies ! Best from a fish and chip shop - e.g. cornish pastie)

    lamingtons

    Fruit Tingles

    Barbecue shapes

    Golden Roughs

    Lifesavers (like cough sweets – try fisherman’s friends)

All in all, it’s clear there is far more choice in the supermarkets in England compared to here – perhaps there is more in Sydney, but I can only compare to Brisbane areas. However, there’s enough choice here for it not to be an issue.

Friends bringing food from overseas:

We have found that Customs don't mind anything being brought over that is packaged food i.e. marmite, UK Cadburys chocolate, Prawn Cocktail crisps etc. Make sure you tick the box on your declaration form that you've got food, even if it was just sweets (lollies/confectionary/candy), left over sandwich or powdered milk for a baby - they pulled us up on that!....  No "Welcome to Australia, I see this is your first trip on your permanent Visa"... but - "please fill the form in properly sir and declare that you have food if you have got any food"! They were a lot nicer on a later return trip to Oz in 2002 - but were XRaying every single bag and looking in particular for food or other organic products. So just declare it - and don't worry about it because they will almost certainly just let you keep it.

Differences

Icecream cornettos are sometimes called Drumsticks

Sweets are called "lollies"

Lollies are generally known as Chuppa Chupps

Smoked Mackerel - hard to find - best place Woolworths!

Sausages – not nearly as good as UK sausages – not many decent pork ones. Best place – again, Woolies.

Cod - hard to find in supermarkets. Fishfingers (even Birdseye) and fillet pieces are other white fish such as Hake.

Fish and Chips - small portions - unlike traditional fish and chip shops in England. A piece of cod served in a fish and chip shop is less than half the typical large cod in England - but costs around the same. A portion of chips can be a small scoop (I once counted only 15 chips). The family portions are

Sausage on a stick is a "Pluto Pup"

Cadburies chocalate     Much much more variety, slightly different (more cocoa) taste which is down to the different compotion used to stop it melting at 30 deg.

Lots of BYO (Bring Your own) alchohol restaurants – even restaurants that are licenced often allow BYO

Labour is about $55  an hour for skilled carpenter/restoration. Strangely "slashers" (mowers) are also $55 an hour (from a professional company), but they do provide their own rideon mower. I believe you can find them cheaper for down to $25 an hour if you find a local tradesperson. A bobcat operator with his own machine for doing landscaping is about $90 an hour.

In the Summer, tons and tons of insects ! - incredible noise all night but you get used to it quickly. Hundreds of Cain Toads come out on the lawns just out of the light. A few go near the house and they all magically disappear in the morning. Watch where you walk in the dark, especially between trees that are less than 15 feet apart in case a spider has put a web across.

If you're looking for a mobile service provider such as a chiropodist (called a podiatrist), then look up "visiting" rather than “mobile”

Burgerking tastes the same, but is called "Hungry Jacks". No Mushroom double swiss or Big King ! Very salty fries. Free refills.

Chicken seems to have more fat - whether roast, fillet pieces or kebab (KFC identical to UK though)

Kentucky Fried Chicken (KFC) is here and the fillet or Zinger burgers are the same!  No variety meal deal (3 pieces + 2 hotwings as in the UK)

Absolutely no Alcohol in Supermarkets (though beer making kits are present) - actually recently saw some "cooking" red and white wine.

There are drive through Alcohol stores which are handy, so on your way back from the supermarket, you can easily stock up on booze - chilled of course.

All soft drink cans are 375ml rather than 335ml in the UK. The plastic bottles are 600ml rather than 500ml in the UK, and are called "buddies" though that is a trademark of Coca-Cola.

Cheese not scaled for strength (in UK 1=Extra strong, 5=mild), so you have to read each label and interpret various descriptions.

Petrol - Premium is same as Super Unleaded - which is 98 octane. It's 4-6 cents per litre more than standard unleaded - . In 2000 it's been as low as 69c and as high as 89c..   It frequently changes price 3 or more times a day and fluctuates around 13% - say 77c in the morning, 87c at lunch, and 82c in the afternoon and back to 77c in the evening ! 2004 news - for the past few months, the prices don't seem to be jumping around during the day.... and typically being 98c at the beginning of the week, dropping to 88c towards the end of the week.

Strimmer – Called “Whippersnipper” or “Brushcutter”

Auction – pronounced “Oction”

Corgettes – called “Zucchini” like the Americans

Aubergine – called Eggplant

Rego - Registration document (used in official governement literature!)

Air - A car "with air" means with air conditioning.

 

Shopping

Paying for your shopping is great using the “EFTPOS” system, where you use your debit card, but don’t have to sign. Instead, the small machine takes your card, displays the amount, allows you to select “Cheque, Savings or Credit”….. and assuming it’s cheque or savings account, lets you then type in your 6 digit PIN. It’s very fast, and almost every shop, garage etc, have them, and even market stalls and at exhibitions, sometimes have portable terminals. I think something similar is at last happening in the UK with “chip and PIN” .

They sometimes check your bags when you leave certain stores, particularly if you do not exit via the checkout. They even want to open the baby bag at the bottom of the pram. Signs say that a condition of entering the store is that you present your bags for inspection when you exit!!! Most don’t bother, but some do as a matter of protocol.

Plastic bags – it’s great that they pack the backs for you in supermarkets; however it never ceases to amaze me how many you get! A typical large shop will result in about 30 plastic bags. Usually only 3 or 4 items are put in a bag, and frequently only a single item !   At first it seems wasteful, but in fact they are very thin and do break easily, and also suddenly you find you can use them in the small kitchen bin under the sink, for scraping plates into before they go in the bin etc etc…. and are able to use them liberally without ever running out. They’re making a fuss now like they did in the UK about conservation and possibly charging for bags – or giving a 10c refund if you bring your own shopping bag…. yet still they put hardly anything in the plastic bags!

Prices rarely shown as per kg, so price comparison is difficult - like it was in the UK several years ago. Noted that Pick 'n Pay in Aspley does have price/weight comparison.

Mother (and fathers)/Babies rooms in big shopping centres - with microwave, arm chairs, changing stations, childrens toilets etc - very good facility!

Water/Sewerage

Most houses on acreage, outside of the suburbs have "Biocycles" or similar system - large cylindrical tanks dug into the ground, with a full automatic mechanical and chemical system, that takes all house sewerage and turns it into clean water, which spays the grass/plants. An incredible system and you don’t have to do anything – just pay $55 per quarter for a chap to maintain it. Really useful in winter because while the rest of the grass goes brown, by moving the pipe around you can keep a large area green. I understand that rules are ever changing, and in many circumstances now you must have the drainage buried rather than spraying out somewhere.

 In fact, sewerage appears not to be available outside of suburban areas, although mains water (called “town water”) can be. If your area doesn't have town water, then you use tanks which collects and filters rain water from your roof – quite common too in some acreage areas. If you have a biocycle, then be careful of what goes down the sink - on the whole it's easy, but you are advised to minimise the amount of washing up liquid, bleach used etc. Don't put oil down the sink - dispose of into a plastic bag and then into the bin.  We do the same for gravy and anything else that we might have previously washed down the sink.

Washing Machine

Washing - Some Ozzys have a thing about cold water washing (clothes) and claim it's more efficient, cheaper and just as good, and they mostly have top loaders. Well we tried it and found it fails to get anything out, so warm water washing is for us. Front loaders are available, often fancily referred to as "European appliances" ! We did go for a modern top loader as they have larger loads and have the flexibility of adding clothes during the cycle.  We didn’t like the idea of the agitator in some of them – a stalk in the centre of the machine that rotates backwards and forwards as we felt it could stretch clothes.. however some modern machines have no agitator and use a combination of waterjets and waterfalls !

Dryers bought here can be normally mounted so that the controls are on the bottom rather than the top - sometimes by turning the machine upside down, and taking off the control panel and moving it. This allows it to be mounted on the wall above the washing machine, and still let you reach the controls. This is necessary if you have a top loading washing machine, because there has to be room above the washing machine to open the lid, so your dryer has to mounted that much higher.

Gas/Electric

I’m not sure which is more commonly used here for cooking. If you’re on acreage, normally only electricity is available. However this is no barrier to having gas, because it’s quite normal to have one or two large gas cylinders out the back for cooking and/or heating. The company come and replenish the gas for you so it’s really no hassle. When we build a house we will definitely have gas, though I have seen some nice combination wide cooker hob that is the size of a 6 burner, which has with 4 gas burners at the corners, a central wide gas burner for long dishes, and also a halogen plate too.

The hot water tank is usually situated outside! There's a system here like the UK's "Economy 7"..... called Tarrif 31 or Tarif 33. Normal electricy is on tarrif 11 at 11.5c per kW hour. Your hot water doesn't need to be on 24hours, so most people have it connected to Tarrif 33 available about 8 hours p day (overnight) at 5c per kW hour. If you find you don't get enough hot water, you might switch to Tarrif 31 (available about 19 hours p day) at 7c per kW hour - but if you do, expect your hot water costs to go up by 30% ..Note that most hot water circuits aren't on a timer..... they just use the thermostat. I have seen some houses with hot water timers, and these are fitted in the circuit breaker cabinet with a tiny display and small buttons - and fit in the same space as a trip switch. If you use an electric pool heater or heatpump, you would probably have this connected to Tarrif 33.

The devices that use Tarrif 31 or Tarrif 33 must be connected through a different circuit, because there's a separate meter to measure your use of each tarrif. Of course you may have solar hot water, in which case the electricy is only used to top up.

Buying House

Buying a house - in Queensland your offer if accepted is a written contract and binding. No gazumping, no losing a sale/purchase. Can be made subject to obtaining finance and buildings inspection, so you could drag it out by being slow on getting finance. During this time, the vendor cannot accept another offer, so each contract is usually given a time limit of 14-30 days.

Banking:

Loads more cash machines - in the garage, in the supermarket which is very handy. You can't view transaction on these though, but it is handy that your balance is always printed after withdrawing cash, and reflects the correct balance, not at close of business yesterday.

The usual everyday account should be a statement savings account, plus a cheque account [A small tax is payable on money put in the cheque account, so typically you would only transfer money here that is necessary to cover any cheques you've written].  A term deposit account with as little as 24 hours notice but pays sensible interest is useful for larger balances, plus a Direct Investment account allowing you to buy and sell shares).   Transferring between the accounts can be achieved through internet or telephone banking although transfer from a term deposit account requires a phonecall to your personal banker.  Typically, on a 24 hour notice account I've found that even if you ring at 4pm in the afternoon, the money will be available at about midday the next day in your savings account.

Telephone banking and internet banking is the norm. Writing a cheque to pay someone using a different bank  results in an inter-bank charge. So use internet banking to transfer the money to their account which lets you set up their details – known as “direct credit”.  Also many large institutions have "BPAY" which lets you pay a bill using telephone or internet banking by specifying the BPAY code and your reference numbers.  Bankers Drafts (called “Bank cheques”) will cost $5

Post

Your mailbox is at the end of your drive, not in your door. You can of course pay for a PO Box for $55 a year, which could be useful if you think you are going to move  as you don’t have to advise too many people of your change of address….. also useful to prevent your mailbox from filling up when you are away.

Bins

Emptied once a week - twice up north. Two wheelie bins are the norm – one (green lid) for usual stuff and one (yellow lid) for recyclable material (glass, paper, cardboard,plastic all mixed together).   Placed at the end of your drive rather than up by your property. Emptied once every other week for the recycle bin. For the recycle bin, you put in carboard, cans, plastic, paper - all mixed up.

Film Processing

- Kmart prices are reasonable. 35mm and APS, with 1 hour option available. Good price for extra sets of prints. Cost of 40 exposure APS film, any size, (ignoring number of pictures setting if used on camera) is $16 and another $10 for a second set of prints if ordered at the same time.

Electricity

 The same as the UK, it's 220/240 volts at 50Hz.   Plugs – you’ll typically need about 50, more if you have lots of electrical items. Use Bunning hardware store, or try Kmart. Note their plugs don’t have fuses in them. Officially you are not allowed to change your own plugs, you are meant to have an electrician! When changing English plugs, you'll need to strip some more wire because English Earth is usually longer than the other two to reach the top pin, but in Australian plugs it's the shortest. Live is called "Active", or marked with the letter A.  We brought over a large number of 4 and 6 gang UK sockets - this means that after fitting an Australian plug you can use English mains plugs.  This is a useful strategy for quickly getting your computer and hifi equipment up and running before changing the individual plugs on each appliance. It's also essential when using all of those transformers/adapters that came with your mobile phone chargers, computer equipment, toys etc. It also means that you can purchase some cheaper UK gadgets on ebay, or while visiting, knowing that you will have no problem plugging in the power packs. I now have at least a 4 gang UK socket in nearly every room in the house and 20 uk sockets in my study!

 Be warned though, in the UK plugs can take a maximum of 13amps, which means a maximum of about 3 kilowatts - (3000 watts).   In Australia, sockets are rated at 10 amps, so the total of anything you plug in to a multiple socket device connected to a single plug is 2.4 kilowatts, (2400 watts). A six gang socket can there happily run computer, monitor, modem transformer, scanner transformer, printer, Fax machine.... but add it up to make sure (add the power rating in watts, not the size of the fuses). If you use a heater or hairdryer on one of these multigang sockets, you are likely to overload if you also have other appliances plugged in.  If you daisychain one multiple gang socket off another, you may have got away with it in the UK, but it's easier to overload here.    It is possible to get 15 amp plugs and sockets too - there's no point in buying 15 amp plugs though because almost 15amp sockets are very unusual in homes, and 15 amp plugs have larger earthpins which won't fit in the usual 10 amp sockets.

By the way, there are electrical sockets in bathrooms here !! so it's a luxury to be able to have a hair dryer in the bathroom. Be careful though !

TV/Video

            TVs - I had heard a number of stories as to whether or not it was worth bring your TVs or Videos, and whether or not they would work.  Here's the accurate picture :  If your TV is a multisystem TV, it will probably work – it should specifically support “PAL B/G” in addition to the UK system which is “PAL I”.   If your TV has the facility to display NTSC – (useful for watching American or Japanese videos), this is no guarantee that it will be a proper multisystem TV. Grundig and Panasonic larger sets are often multi-system, so if you are travelling abroad soon and want to buy a telly now, make sure it’s multi-system.  Check your TV by looking in the manual to look for “PAL B/G” support, or if you don’t have the manual, try tuning the TV and see if that is available on the menu.

Without PAG B/G, your expensive TV is not going to work here; it won't pick up TV channels and nor will your UK video recorder for the same reason. If may well receive a picture or a fuzzy picture, but not the sound. One or two channels may have a good picture, but again, no sound.  This is because, while the TV system itself is the same as the UK (PAL, 50Hz), it uses a different broadcast frequencies. Undoubetdly TVs can be modified but the cost would be about £80-£100.

A better strategy could be to purchase an Australian video recorder, and connect it not with the ariel lead (known as UHF connection) but with a video and audio lead (phono, scart or S-Video).  Any OZ video equipment will work fine on a UK TV when using Video and audio cables instead of the ariel lead.

The Australian video recorder can pick up the TV channels, so you can watch (and record) Australian TV by turning on both the UK TV and the Australian Video recorder. Use the TV remote control to control sound and perhaps select the video channel, probably 0 or "AV" or “EXT”, and use the video remote control to change channel.  The only disadvantage of this is you could not recorder one channel while watching another - but it's a solution to extend the life of your existing TV before having to replace it.  The absolute cheapest solution would be to buy a broken Australian Video Recorder. As long as the tuner works as well as the remote control, it wouldn't matter if the video play/record mechanism was faulty.

An Australian satellite/cable decoder will use a composite video connection (or possibly an S Video connection) plus an audio cable, rather than the ariel to connect to your TV so it will work without problem on your UK TV assuming that has these connections on the back.

A UK Digital Set-top box will probably work, but I haven’t tested one yet.

In fact, any piece of UK video equipment (including playstations etc) will work fine on an OZ TV if it is connected by video and audio cables and using the AV channel.  Note that the AV cable is usually an optional extra when it comes to games systems.   If you were to try to use the ariel lead from an Australian games system on a UK TV, then you could tune in a perfect picture but you wouldn't get any sound.  The only problem is UK Video recorders.  They will play videotapes without a problem, whether from UK or OZ,  on an OZ TV (using video/audio cable), but they will not be able to display and therefore not record  OZ television programs. You will almost certainly want to buy a VCR over here unless you have a "multisystem" VCR (Panasonic).

Therefore I would recommend only leave your TV if it ONLY has an ariel socket on the back, with no video socket or SCART connection.  It’s only possible use in OZ would be to be used with a UK games system, or playing tapes with your UK VCR. It will have zero resale value in OZ so best sell it in the UK.

Another question is can your TV or VCR equipment be modified to make it work?   Well, the easiest thing is to use an OZ VCR instead connected to your UK TV with video cables.... and remember you can get a real cheap VCR here for around $100. In Brisbane, the TV channels are broadcast in UHF, VH (VHF High) and VL (VHF Low), and all with different audio frequencies than UK. UK TVs and VCRs can only receive UHF channels.  These UHF channels would display picture but not sound once you had tuned them in. Because of the VL and VH frequencies, there will be channels your TV simply can't receive and is not cost effective to get modified.    If however you are going to the Gold Coast or Sunshine coast, the TV stations there are only UHF so your TV can display the picture for every channel.  I understand a modification to make the sound work is quite cheap, using an "audio filter", and you would get this done here by a TV repair man.  So to find out about other places, you need to find out if they broadcast UHF only, or if they have VL and VH TV stations.

PAL I, used in the UK,  is 625 lines, UHF

PAL G is 625 lines UHF but with a different audio frequency. Most channels in Oz are PAL G, so an older UK TV and even some quite modern ones will only display the picture.     A cheap modification can be made to get the sound working in your UK VCR or UK TV by a TV engineer in the know.

PAL B  is 625 lines, VHF with the same audio frequency as PAL G.   If you move to an area in OZ like Brisbane, (but not the Gold Coast), where some TV channels are VHF, then your standard PAL I UK TV won't get these channels at all, and modification is really out of the question.

Further INFO :

                            UHF channels : SBS and Bris31.

Brisbane :             VL (VHF Low) has channels  ABC, Two

                            VH (VHF High) : channel Seven, Nine and Ten.

Gold coast and Sunshine coast are all on UHF only. Cheap audio filter is the only change required.

DVD Player

DVD - All DVD players are connected by video cables, not RF. Therefore an Australian one will successfully connect to a UK TV and vica versa.

However, when DVDs were developed, the world was split up into 6 regions and a normal player will only play a disc from the same region. (There are in fact two more regions - 7 which is reserved and 8 for international venues such as cruise ships and planes.)  

If you already have DVD discs bought in the the UK (Region 2), then note that a standard Australian Region 4 DVD player will not be able to play the UK discs, even though the television systems are compatible. Similarly, even though both your player and your TV may be capable of displaying NTSC, discs from the US are region 1 and won't play in a standard Australian Region 4 player either.

This was imposed by Hollywood to intentionally prevent people from purchasing discs from other parts of the world. It has stirred up the wrath of many consumer groups as well as the ACCC (Australian Competition and Consumer Commission).  While some recent laws suggest that to circumvent this system could be illegal, others say the use of regions are anticompetitive, preventing free trade and are therefore illegal.  What is even more annoying to those moving abroad or purchasing discs while on holiday overseas, is that they are not informed that the disc they purchase will only work in that region.

No doubt you will want to get around this problem so that all your discs will play and the answer is to make sure you buy a player that is "Code Free", "Region select / auto select" or "All regions". .

Most retail stores will sell players that are fixed to that country's region. In the past, the answer was to get the player modified for about £60-£100...or to use a specialist mail order outlet thta supplied code free players. It's easier now...because a large amount of players, while apparently set to a fixed region, can be made multi-region by pressing a few secret buttons on the remote…… search for the model number of your DVD player and the words “region free” on the internet! The very cheapest players with strange sounding names from Hong Kong or Taiwan are often code free. I recommend LG players.... much as I like Yamaha, Pioneer and Sony... I think you don't need to spend too much on a player.. even a cheap player will produce a great picture and the laser is probably going to wear out in a few years whether you got a cheap or an expensive player. . Unless you know the model number of the player you are buying can definitely be set to region free...then check with the retailer. If they don't know or try to persuade you that it's not necessary to have region free players because there's "such a good choice now".. then find another store who can help!

What about your PC's DVD Drive. Anyone who has tried to play DVDs from different regions in a PC, whether you use PowerDVD, WinDVD or whatever else, will probably have seen a box pop up saying Your DVD Player is set to region 2, This disc is Region 1....You have X remaining changes. When you get a new drive, you only have 5 changes in total, and whatever you set it to last is permanent. This extremely annoying situation is particularly annoying to people who move countries and find their compter/laptop is stuck on the wrong region ! Luckily, there's usually a fix. For drives manufacturued up to 1999, the easy answer is to download a copy of DVD Genie from www.inmatrix.com. It should allow you to fool the program you use such as powerdvd into accepting the region and you can chop and change between regions as often as you like. These older drives use a region protection system called "RPC1".

For DVD drives bought from 2000 onwards (including all DVD burners), the region protection system is called "RPC2". You'll still need DVD Genie (or similar program), but you ALSO need to "flash" the drive...(see how to flash your dvd drive)

Films are as plentiful as in the UK here, DVDs are cheaper out here by the way and are as plentiful as in the UK... best prices are usually at Kmart at between $32 and $39 - get Kmart on a 15% storewide discount day and you're in for some particularly good bargains ! www.ezydvd.com.au are a good source too.

To find out more about modified players in the UK, read mags like T3, What Video, Home Cinema Magazine.

Telephones

UK Telephones - They work but you will need to swap a few wires around in the telephone lead - get one of those adaptors from US to UK with a short wire between - then cut the wire and swap a couple of cables around. It's quite easy but I'm sure you are not allow to connect such modified cables to Telstra's network. so this is for educatonal purposes only.

On most UK phones, you can disconnect the UK lead, (which is international on one end, UK on the other), and then replace it with one bought in Australia.

Some houses in Australia have the international connector, so the lead you buy would have the same on both ends.

Some have an Australian telephone socket, so the lead would need to be an Australian to International lead.

If you can't disconnect the lead, you'll need a convertor (RJ11 to RJ12 adaptor). I haven't found these anywhere in Australia, so you'll need to buy an adaptor in England. It's probably a lead with a female RJ11 socket, and a male RJ12 (international) plug.


So - if you're using this type of cable (Australian to International) :

Open it up and you should see this

Now pull out the metal pins on the green/yellow pair and swap them around so that the one that was in green is now in the yellow, and vica versa. This is necessary so that the wires themselves can now be swapped, and still be able to fit against the moulded plastic in between them. Do the same to the black and red pair so that they are also swapped. The picture below shows the black and red successfully swapped, and the green and yellow about to be swapped.

You should now have yellow, green then black,red


If however you don't have the above type of cable, and instead will be plugging an RJ12 plug (shown below), into the wall then do this instead:

In these diagrams, the LEFT hand side of the picture is the side that connects to the telephone line. The RIGHT hand side connects to the UK telephone.

Cut the cable and on each end that you cut, strip the outer insulation to reveal the 4 wires

For the part of the cable that is plugged into the wall, look carefully at the RJ12 plug at the colours of the wires. In the example above, my colours were Red, Blue, Green, White. Determine the outer two colours - in my case Red and White. Fold these two wires back so they are not used, and strip the two remaining wires so they can be connected to the other half of the cable.

For the other half of the cable that is plugged into the phone (or modem/fax), you will be doing the opposite. In my case I folded back red and white on one half, so I needed to fold back blue and green on this half, and strip the red and white ready for connection..

To decide which colour gets connected to which, look again at the RJ12 plug. The wires are next to each other... so as my colours were Red Blue Green White, I needed to connect Red to Blue, and Green to White.

To connect the wires, you could just twist them, but it's better to solder. If you don't have a soldering iron, try Dick Smith or Jcar Electronics -$20. To get a good joint, heat up the wire, then apply the solder rather than melting the solder first and trying to paint it on!

Finally - I recommend you don't make any changes to any wiring that is part of the house, or could possibly have Australian equipment plugged into it. Only modify the leads that directly connect to a UK telephone.

Now use insulating tape around each wire separately, and then wrap insulating tape around the whole thing. Make sure nothing is plugged in until the soldering is insulated – There’s about 20v in those lines and you don’t want to short out your telephone line and have to call out the telephone company !

Needless to say, I'm sure these modifications are not allowed and nor is the UK equipment authorised for use in Australia.

BTW …. After this mod, the UK telephones do not ring, so you will have to rely upon an Australian telephone elsewhere in the house to hear the ringing !

Home Wireless phones - Using a DECT digital mobile phone from the UK, I found these work fine in here after doing the above modification - it rings successfully too ! Note – a 1999 Philips DECT phone needed the above modification but a newer Philips set purchased in 2002 worked without modification.  With a large house, I recommend 3 or 4 handsets Note that Ebay have some great multi handset deals in the UK.

Note - you may find some strange behaviour when using a UK modem before any modifications have been made : When the modem is plugged in, a nearby UK phone starts working and a nearby Australian phone stops working! (I say nearby, because this only happens if the sockets are connected together with all 4 wires, rather than only 2 wires as is common). This happens because some modems have the pairs of wires twisted together internally, thus effectively achieving the above modification while also connecting up 2 wires that shouldn't be connected.

Poor internet connection .. some older wireless phones (not DECT) can upset modems that use the same phone line.... so before blaming the telephone company for constant failed or dropped connections, try unplugging your wireless phone from the wall and see if the internet connection now works reliably. I didn't believe this solution until I tried it!

Wireless devices -

Do UK Walkie talkies, DECT phones, Wireless Networking etc  work in OZ ?

Yes of course! !

DECT phones have international approval so no problem there. 

Wireless network devices are no problem. 

2.4GHz transmission devices are all fine too. 

There can be legal issues for other devices regarding the frequency, but they will still work

Radio control models do have different frequencies and since you don’t want your helicopter/plan to fall out of the sky when a park ranger switches on his radio, you should look into changing the crystal for your receiver/transmitter.   

Other shorter range radio control toys may well be using a non permitted frequency, but unlikely to cause a problem

Video transmitters for transmitting your video signal around the house…. Well unless it is a 2.4GHz model, they were illegal in the UK too.

Mobile phone

What about bringing a UK mobile phone ?  

YUP – they usually work fine. Remember you’ll need a uk power socket for charging.   Bringing your own phone means you can jump on to a SIM only plan, which often have no monthly charge at all – just call costs.   If you leave your UK SIM in the phone and you have “roaming” enabled, which is often enabled by default, then your UK SIM will work in Australia, but the call costs will be very high…. You’ll also get charged if someone calls you.  SO, get rid of the UK SIM and get one here.   If your phone is locked to your provider in England, then if you are out of contract, phone them up and ask them to unlock it.  If you are still in a contract, you can get phones unlocked for about $29 in certain places here – cheaper in England I believe if you sort it out before you arrive… you could even have a go at downloading the relevant program from the net and connecting your pc to your phone with the data cable, and reprogramming the phone’s bios to unlock - worked fine on my LG 7100 !!

Info

Biocycle / Biotech (0411) 440777 $200 a year

Acreage - Rideon, strimmer, hedge trimmer, chainsaw - or pay $50 an hour or thereabouts

Large hardware Bretts / Bunnings

Most things - amazing variety, from KMart, also Target & Big W. Pick 'n Pay Hypermarkets good combination of supermarket in one half and general products & garden/tools in the other half.

A combination of homebase and higher spec hardware : Glenfords, Trade Tools.

Hi spec technical :   Some Harvey Normans have more than others - good home theatre areas with a fairly good range including some top end equipment. Try Aspley.  Also Videopro at Chermside. Also Myer Centres particularly at Chermside or the Queen St Mall.

Electronic components: Dick Smith, or JCar Electronics.

Mail order DVD : www.ezydvd.com.au - can be cheaper in Kmart.

Internet Provider –

A number to choose from - you have to pay monthly - it's not free like many in the UK.  However, it's probably a local call, and a local call has a one off cost no matter how long you use it.  So logging on 20 times a month for an hour will cost only $3 in phone calls, plus $20-$25 for an unlimited plan (watch out for data limits – best to get unlimited time and unlimited data.).  Get a second phone line and you can keep your internet connection on for hours for the single 20c charge. Many providers kick you off after 4 hours, so that’s another phone call if you want to reconnect. 

Cheaper providers are I-Hug, Newtel, Optus , Dodo.

I have had 4 internet providers since I’ve been here… (Dingoblue and Onetel Rest In Peace)…  I switched away from New-tel (previously named WorldXchange) because I kept having disconnection and performance problems, but have been with Ihug for over 2 years and been happy with them.

Broadband:  Same issue as England – you can get ADSL or cable in the cities or built up suburbs for reasonable prices. Out in more rural areas, it’s not available, because you normally have to be within 4.5kms of an ADSL enabled exchange (Samford's exchange was enabled March 2003)..  BUT – people overlook the Satellite option. I have had Satellite broadband since June 2003 from "Ihug".  It’s $60 per month, unlimited hours and 3gig per month data limit.  You still have to connect using a phone line, so uploading data goes at normal speeds; however, most people’s internet activity is download. They pop a small 60cm dish on your roof, and a satellite PCI card in your PC.  Really useful with a second phone line, because then you can just stay connected for hours, or all day and night. Easy to share the internet of course with the other PCs in your household, using Internet Connection Sharing that’s built in to Windows 2000 and XP.  Remember, the phone call costs 20c for however long you remain connected.  The longest I’ve remained connected is 36 hours before getting disconnected automatically.  There are some wireless broadband providers out there too but I haven't found their pricing to be any better than satellite.

Another problem facing customers is the dreaded "pair gains" system that telephone providers installed (known as a "RIM"), in order to get more phone lines out of their equipment. These not only typically limit your internet connection to 28-31k rather than up to 56k that you would hope for, but also are incompatible with ADSL. However, two possible solutions exist... since November 2003 Telstra will accept a "transposition request" and search for an alternate route so that, if available, they can transfer your phone line off a pair gain system and on to a normal piece of copper cabling. Unfortunately, there's little chance of transposition requests being successful. The other, less publicised solution, is that there is now a solution to allow customers on a RIM to actually get ADSL - which requires the installation of a gadget called a "minimux" in the green telephone box in your road.

Telephone Provider

The conventional choice is Telstra, like choosing British Telecom in England. If your entire service is through Telstra you could be paying more than you need to. You can choose to get your local calls, and your national calls from different providers and use Telstra for both, one of these, or not at all.  Telstra have got better recently, and I think for local calls they could be the best deal.

Local Calls : (This is who you will pay your line rental to, and who you deal with for arranging other services or dealing with line problems. )

Long Distance : (includes National and International calls and Mobiles. )

Whether changing the local or long distance service, you don't need to cancel with your previous provider.... just ring up a new provider and go through their application process, and you will be converted over to them. Remember that it can take a couple of weeks before the switch actually takes place. Until that time, calls will continue to go with your original telephone company. The new long distance provider is known as the "preselected" provider. Until the switch has been made, you can still use the new long distance provider by dialling their 4 digit override code ... so don't forget to ask for it if they forget to tell you. After a few weeks, you should no longer need to dial this code. You could choose not to change long distance provider, but access a different one by always using their override code; however you don't get their cheapest rates by using this method.

You may find it more convenient to use the same company for both local and long distance services, simply to have it all on one bill. I find that IHug’s service for both local and long distance calls to be good.  There’s a useful site at www.phonechoice.com.au

Local Calls

Much as I dislike Telstra for their total inflexibility to new migrants for having a mobile phone contract, I think their local call packages "Homeline plus" and “Homeline Advance” are good deals. The other See http://www.bigpond.com/Home/Pricingplans/ for Telstra pricing.

Personally I got Telstra to install my line in our new house to make it quicker... then I immediately changed over !

Long distance calls

(includes national, mobile and international)

I really recommend that you select a different Long distance provider than just using Telstra. If you wish, most long distance providers can also handle the local calls (which are still in reality provided by Telstra), and you may find this convenient in order to have just one bill.  There is no rental portion paid to the long distance provider - that only goes to the local call provider.

International calls

If you dial an international number, it is charged by your Long distance provider. If you used Telstra, a call to England is about 38c per minute. Telstra have some silly half hour deals which are useless because you are unlikely to risk paying for a full half hour only to find out the answer machine answers the other end! Most other long distance providers charge 16c to 21c per minute.

However, I recommend you use a “GoTalk” card for the best rates internationally - just 2.9c (1.2p) per minute to England, USA and New Zealand. Setting up the call does involve dialing a local phone number, and when it answers, dial 1 for English, then the code number shown on your card. It then tells you how much credit you have on the card, and then asks you to dial the number. This process takes about a minute, which is a little less convenient than just dialing directly, but the savings are well worth it and the line quality is perfect.

If you want to make international calls from an Ausie mobile, with mobile calls to England costing about $1 per minute, I'd also advise using a calling card like the GoTalk card.

WARNING - When calling International Mobiles or UK 0800 / 0870 numbers, the call rate is very expensive.  Could be better to phone using your normal long distance provider in this case … check the rates!

Mobiles

For people who don’t plan to use the mobile phone a lot, it is best to avoid being in a contract. For years it has been necessary to have a contract, but recently you can buy a phone, or use a phone you already have, and join a provider on a cheap plan - and I don't mean with recharge cards - but conveniently on direct debit. Two providers stand out with having no monthly access fee whatsoever – Vodaphone and Virgin, and fairly reasonable call costs. If you are making more than 30 minutes of calls in a month or more, you might instead choose a $9 or $15 a month plan from either of these two.

Virgin mobile calls, if spending $20 or less per month, are 50c per min off peak, 98c per min peak, no minimum spend.

I recommend bringing your GSM phone from the UK, or buy a new or second hand phone. I chose Virgin - $39 deposit with no monthly fee. This $39 is a credit on the account, so gradually gets used up. If you don't use the phone much, it could last a year or more.

Number Portability

From September 2001 in Australia, it has been possible to keep your existing number when moving from one telephone company to another. You don’t even need to tell your existing company you are leaving them – just call the new company to sign up and make sure you tell them you want to keep your existing number. Do make sure that you are “out of contract” on your present phone or you will probably have penalties to pay. Don’t cancel the existing telephone service, even if you are coming close to the end of the month and will have to pay another month’s fee. If you cancel, you will not be able to bring your number to the new company. Note that if you speak to your previous mobile phone company, they should agree to reducing the final bill if you the phone is transferred part way during the last month.

UK Phone number

Want to keep a UK phone number ? JFax provides you with a UK telephone number which provides voicemail/ answer machine.  Any messages - voice or fax - get sent to your email account wherever you specify, but it’s £12 a month I believe. Seemed a good idea when we moved, but I found little use for it after a short while.

On arrival  - essential firsts!:

            Get rental/loan car

            PO Box (if you are planning on having one, get it early on so you don’t have to use your temporary accommodation as an address)

            Arrange long term house rental / purchase,

            Register at Tax office for Tax file numbers,

            Register with Medicare,

            If you have children, register with Centrelink for family allowance straight away. Phone them on day 1 so payments will start from then – you can go there with your passports, id etc and your tax file number next week.

            Bank account – you may already have deposit account set up from UK, but you will probably also want savings & cheque account. Even if your deposit account is set up in the city, you can go to any local branch.

            Select Doctor/Medical Centre (you don't have to register until you use them. You can ask UK doctor for your computer printout of your records)

            get Mobile phone - Vodaphone possible with $200 deposit, Telstra - no way. You can bring a UK digital GSM phone and use an Australian SIM – good deal from Virgin – it’s $39 deposit and free monthly

            Buy the drivers handbook and start learning! You have 3 months from being resident to take the written driving test. (Practical driving test is no longer required for many countries including UK). It’s easy and if you fail and can just turn up the next day and try again.

            Suncream, and if hot, drink, drink and more drink.

            Insulated Waterbottle & lunchboxes for children

            Lottery Winners Circle card -  call 131 868 to get one. Costs a few $ and takes a few weeks - worth having because they notifiy you of any wins and also it stores your numbers on the card, meaning to don’t have to fill out the form each week.

“Gotalk” card from garage for cheapest calls to UK (2.9c per min). When looking at other cards, watch out for the “flag fall” i.e. the connection charge…. Gotalk has no connection charge, so all you pay is the 20c local phone call.  Unidial charge about 10 mins worth of talktime upon initial connection.

            Telephone line and local calls - recommend Telstra - "Homeline plus" for over 57 local calls a month - we find we make 90-140 calls – also consider Homeline Advance which adds $6 to the line rental but drops local calls to 15c.

            Telephone account for cheap national calls & calls to mobile - recommend Ihug (please mention me as your referrer!  User id “timsorrell”  - then both you and I will get $10 credit.

            Internet ISP – recommend Ihug – again please make sure you mention me who referred you (User id “timsorrell”)  to get $10 credit.

            NOTE – if you need to be calling your UK bank, insurance companies etc once you’ve arrived in Australia, find out their international phone number first, rather than freephone 0800 or local call 0870 numbers.  These numbers are not only not free, but are hugely expensive when called from overseas – up to 80c per min. In fact the 0870 numbers often don’t work at all. It’s therefore essential to find a normal phone number with a standard dialing code. Often the call centre will tell you there isn’t another number….. persist!!! Ask them the phone number for reception, or who they would call if they were late for work….. explain that the 08xx number cannot be called from the country you are going to. This has caused a lot of frustration when you look at the contact details on uk websites, to find that a number for international callers hasn’t been provided.

            “Flyby” loyalty card from Kmart, Coles or Myer - register straight away so you clock up points straight away. Use the temporary card provided until plastic card arrives.

            Before going mad in Kmart, note they sometimes have a storewide sale - 15% off all prices - absolutely everything, about 4 times a year. Watch out for it. Sometimes certain sections may have 20% or 25% off, - even 50% off say on children's clothing.

            Playgroup - there's bound to be one or more in your suburb - ask around

            Schools - sign up, buy uniform/books

            Queensland Ambulance Cover  - this is now included as part of your electricity bill ! It used to be $90 for whole family per year or otherwise included in most private medical cover plans. A trip in an Ambulance following a 000 call could have previously cost $1500.

            Get some Insect Spray ! and if you want, Insect Repellant for the evening.

            Australian electric plugs – (meant to use an electrician)

            Shut screen doors as it gets dark to stop creepy crawlies coming in

            Weeds - control of them straight away ! Things grow fast here unless it’s winter!

Australian Web search engine

            Try www.sensis.au       - succeeds in bringing up more Australian specific results - rememember to change from The World to Australia

            www.Google.com.au also lets you get results from Australian sites only.

Family Restaurants

Samford pub (fantastic renovations done in 2003... good pub for familes)

The Gap Tavern

Ahhhrgh - no TGI Friday! Try :

Hogs Breath Cafe

Lone Star

Sizzler restaurants. (a bit like Harvester in UK)

Hard Rock Café on the Gold Coast

Acreage near the coast

Here in Samford, we are 30-35 mins from Redcliffe on the Sunshine Coast and we feel that is an easy journey to get to a nice beach! We're also 90mins from the Gold Coast. The closer you get to the coast, I would have thought the less chances of finding acreage. Eatons crossing area, Warner, Cashmere have acreage and would be 10 mins closer to the coast than Samford, but they don't have a central village requiring longer car journeys just to get break and milk. I guess there may be acreage areas around Petrie which is a little further north, and be considerably closer to the coast, but of course further away from Brisbane. On other side of the city, on the coast are Manly and Cleveland though I don't know the typical size of properties there. I just heard that down at the Gold Coast, the particularly nice acreage areas are "Mudgeeraba" and Currumbin, but I can imagine it would still take 20 to get to the sea.

About Samford

We chose Samford by talking to people who knew the areas and by a process of elimination of the other acreage areas. Just one drive around Samford Downs made me say "this is it".  The only other area I found like it was down in Brookfield, for some very strange reason the land blocks there are at least $100k more, yet there is no central village - just a roundabout with a few shops on it! ..The houses are all individual as in Samford Downs, but something about it isn't quite as smart - perhaps it's that people mow their lawn frontages more often in Samford.... I don't really know!    We wanted an area where we would have quite a few neighbours, although it is still a minute or two's walk to reach them walking down our drive to the end of the cul de sac and up one of the neighbours' drives, and in particular we wanted somewhere where our son could ride his bike and make friends   Now we do have friends here (going to playgroup with our younger two made that easy for us but still takes a number of months)  we think we wouldn't mind in the future being in a more secluded area, hence 5 acre properties where they are further apart from each other and more private. Personally, we don't have a particular affinity to water, though yes of course it would be handy to be closer to beach, but I wouldn't give up our elevated mountain views for anything, while others are happy with 1/5th acre plot and neighbours looking into their gardens in order to achieve prestigious waterfront property! 

What’s nice about Samford is that you have definitely left the suburbs, yet there's a village with a good sized supermarket and an number of other facilities, and even more exciting (saving a 15 min journey elsewhere) - a chinese and an Indian that opened mid 2000! It's a smart area and you are also very close to Mount Glorious with its rainforest walks - also Cedar Creek with nice walks and climbing up by the waterfalls.

Schools 

Regarding schools, the moment you get here the children will be put back about 6 months, because the school year starts in January. The state primary is excellent we believe - we've been very pleased with it having made the jump from a private school in England to state school here - all part of our big change of life - it certainly helped our son have local friends. I think it is true that they are much more relaxed than schools in England and have less homework. Yet they do advance and come out the other end with comparible degrees etc.... it seems that at a younger age they don't push as much and prefer them to socialise more out of school. Of course Samford primary school is, while 800 pupils, a village school in a fairly upmarket area so maybe we were lucky but I tend to hear good things about most schools. Our son spent 2 years here at the primary school, and then moved with all his friends to the high school at Ferny Grove this January (no high school in Samford - the bus takes them all to Ferny 10-15mins away) - which really does seem to be an excellent school too with a good reputation! A lot of parents who do use private schools often send their children to the local state primary, and then only change to private schools for high school. Of course there are entry requirements, waiting lists, some religious bias,  and all of that, but I believe the costs are much much less than in the UK. We feel very fortunate to have access to both good state schools - our 2 and 4 year olds will also be going through both these schools and there really doesn't seem to be any question about not getting in.

Houses/Acreage

Dependant on the amount of money available to buy or rent a house, you may be able to have an acreage property. There are good areas, and there are outstanding areas! To some people their ideal home would be waterfront property - but waterfront property has a typical block size of 800sq metres, (around 1/5th acre), or at best a double block 2/5ths acre. Waterfront properties are in the places mentioned before - but don't forget the Gold Coast, such as Runaway bay area. To others, upmarket areas as close to the city as possible is what is their ideal property - and Windsor is expensive and upmarket suburb. But others - and this is where I'm biased - like large houses on acreage, and dislike suburban areas for living in. On acreage, some prefer seclusion - and some prefer open views - maybe elevated with mountain views.

Advantages of Acreage Living

While trying to persuade a friend to move here rather than Brisbane City or Gold Coast, we came up with a number of things to try to tempt them. Remember we're talking about the same price as a house close to the city centre or waterfront, but probably half an hour out of the city centre :

            Able to have a large house

            Able to have pool without taking up garden

            Able to have triple or larger garage

            Able to have large driveway for cars

            Flexibility to extend even larger without having to consider moving – perhaps second house for parents, teenager’s sanctuary, large shed, games rooms etc

            Room for verandahs and large patios

            A typical drive to shops, nearby shopping centres ("malls") etc is likely to take you on quiet country roads with great views

            Able to walk / play around entire house without feeling house is adjacent

            Able to have interesting areas, walks, hideaways, isolated spots in the garden

            Good for entertaining many people

            Dogs and cats have freedom to roam in their own space (legally not allowed off your property)

            Can have chickens without taking over garden

            Room for Vegetable patch /Orchard

            It’s wonderful watching kids run around in a large space

            Can have kids playthings, swings, trampoline, climbing etc without clutter

            Less feeling of being trapped inside if there’s bad weather

            Able to entertain even if bad weather

            Unlikely to be overlooked by many neighbours if at all

            Feeling of spaciousness

            Feeling of permanence; it can’t be taken away, unlike in urban areas where it can continue to be developed and views can disappear

            Everyone else is also on acreage so view all around house is of greenery with just a few houses rather than lots of houses with some landscaping

            No parking problems, no cars parked on road so smarter appearance for whole area

Able to have elevated views, mountain views

Much better feeling of value and achievement – substantially more land for your money

House can be set back from road giving improved security, feeling of seclusion

Can fence / gate to provide security

Able to have nice gardens as well as lots of lawn

Room for “dam” (small lake)

Able to do substantial landscaping to make interesting outside features

Trees !  Makes your garden or front/back yard interesting!

Able to have many fruit trees

Feeling of safety / safer area as less people live

Quiet local roads roads, safe for kids to ride bikes, encouraging outdoor activities / staying or getting fit

Older kids have room for motorbikes, quad bikes etc

Have neighbours who also enjoy similar amount of space


When we emigrated from the UK, we looked for areas that we would consider you'd get more for your money - and initially we looked at 1/2 acre to an acre as being ideal and ended up getting a 2 acre property; now we feel that for our next house (which we hope to build), 5 acres would be absolutely ideal - room to add fruit trees here, garden there, pool, allow the house to be set well back from the road yet still have large front and back gardens, room for extension in the future and still have large expanse of playing area, but not too large to manage. (I used to absolutely hate gardening by the way in the UK, but here it just all seems worth it!).

Acreage areas are likely to give you between 1 acre and 5 acres and the areas we found were: Pullenvale, Bridgeman Downs, Samford Valley, Kenmore Hills, Brookfield but we rejected the other areas for various reasons such as no village/shops nearby, less polished, over expensive, further away from city, no views etc, as one place stands out as the ultimate area which is the Samford Valley. It's just 30mins from the city centre - has a great village with good facilities - 30 mins to the city, 40 mins to the Sunshine coast (Redcliffe/Scarborough), 45 -60 mins to the Gold coast, and has a number of areas including Samford Downs with mountain views and a very polished appearance.

Land and Building Prices

If you are in a good position when selling your house in the UK, you may be able to buy a house mortgage free or be able to just get a small mortgage.... all dependant of course on the area you select. I originally worked on the idea of Sydney being 2/3 of cost of UK houses and Brisbane 1/3rd. I think that's too simplistic because there are so many different areas, and when you get up to large houses on acreage, it actually works out even cheaper than that.

Amazingly Samford has cheaper land prices (and thus also property prices) than many other acreage areas, yet we think has the best appearance with the best facilities; . Having now visited these other areas on several occasions out of interest, we think Samford and the surrounding area was still the right choice. All the acreage houses I have seen are very individual. For a nice 2500 sq foot house on an acre it will probably be $500k (was $350k in 2002). Move up to $750k and you get something very large and with the wow! factor. Move to $850k+ and you have prestige 5500+sq foot property with excellent location and also intercoms, central vacuum, aircon, landscaped gardens, but will be hard to find (unless you build!). There are a few larger properties some on larger parcels of land such 30 acreas in the $1m to $1.4m category, but take a long time to sell.

You can build fantastic properties too.   Typical land price for 3-5 acres at present (2004) is $350k (was $220k in 2002) [just seen some 5 acre plots now pushing over $400k !]  ; building costs are are $1200 per sq metre for a good specification low set house... $1000 per sq metre for a large two storey house - (or down to $550 per sq metre for a project home which is where a building company have a fixed set of available house designs that they will build for you on your land, and in some areas have show houses for you to look around, and a limited range of options)

1000 sq foot = 93sq metres = 10 "squares" [I don't know how I got this wrong, but previously I've shown this as 1000sq foot = 12 squares, which I am positive I found in a real estate mag ! However I've triple checked and found a square is indeed a hundred square feet.]

Allow another $50k or more for patios, landscaping, driveway, intercom, central vacuum, granite kitchen bar, and $30-40k for pool.  So – a large 60 “square” home  (6000 sq foot/ 558 sq m) home on 5 acres within 10 mins of the village should cost $905,000 ($500k before 2002 !).

When we arrived, it really did seem incredible to get such a huge house for relatively low amount of ££££. So sorry to be so enthusiastic about house prices in Samford now, as 4 years on they are a lot more expensive. However, if you were lucky enough to own property in England in 2000, I believe the prices have gone up even more so, which should still put you in a great position when you come here.

If you have more than £180,000 to bring or borrow, you can get a nice house on acreage, just 30-40 mins from the city. £240k gets a nice good sized acreage property …. £350,000 and you can live in luxury in something that would be something ridiculous like £2 million in England. And best of all, there's still land to buy to build your own dream house - 3-5 acre plots can be had near Samford for £140k (but were under half that 4 years ago!)

There are still wonderful land blocks being sold and it's quite normal to buy the land and have a house built. I'd recommend first renting or buying, allowing a considerable amount of time to design your dream home to try and avoid mistakes and regrets. If you can, of course buy the land as soon as possible to secure it, and some people have a large “Ozzie Barn” structure built as their garage/storage area, and have it converted for living in – perhaps with an upstairs mezzanine level… saves paying someone else rent, and leaves you with guest/teenage retreat accommodation.

Sometimes people get permission to subdivide their land if it's big enough, but sometimes its costly to comply with the regulations such as having to build a bridge over a low lying flood area, even though you may presently be using that area yourself to drive up to your property. Typically, subdivision is allowed if the resultant plots are 5 acres or more. Recently in Samford, some smaller blocks right down in the village have been developed. People find it strange that this has been allowed while the whole character of Samford Valley has been shaped by the previous strict subdivision policies.

In some areas, you are allowed to build more than one house on your land. I am certain you are not allowed to sell separately, so the usual purpose is for parents / relatives to live beside you. I have seen a number of houses for sale with extra living quarters. It clearly adds cost when building and makes selling more complicated as you are seeking purchases with specific requirements.  If you are building, then when designing layout of your house and the extra residence, you might consider potential future modifications to allow the property to be converted to a single dwelling with more rooms.

Size of Acreage

Note that 5 acres doesn't cost much more than 2 though you may have to go a bit further out.... and the moment you see someone's house with 5 acres, you appreciate the extra flexibility and spaciousness. Maybe not now, but in the future you may want to add this and that, an area of trees, an orchard, a tennis court, an extension and it would be lovely to think you have that flexibility without having to move yet again.    On 2 acres, particularly if not a level site (and few are!) you might put the house towards the edge of the property with a driveway .... but with 5 acres you can put it in the middle and have a nice large space all around you. If other properties nearby are also 5 acres, you have excellent separation, yet still have neighbours. I live in an area where the properties are 2-3 acres and while most houses have separation all around, some including mine have a close neighbour, though masked (almost) by a line of trees. A lot of areas in the Downs are 1 acre, so are a closer together, yet it is these houses, all different, that sold us on this particular area. Privacy is created by planting trees here and there, and trees can grow amazingly fast to surprising heights in just 2-3 years.  My friend has 5 acres in Highvale and has built a normal sized house and the space is wonderful. They've planted about 15 fruit trees in one area, have their watertanks and biocycle hidden away, created gardens around the creek which the driveway is built over and have fenced half the property to create a large garden around the house. I'm envious !! and since I have a burning desire to build, we will certainly aim for that size when we do it in the future.  Regarding mowing, there are larger and faster rideon mowers which can cut 5 acres in the same time you can cut 2 acres. More hilly terrain and more obstacles such as trees of course make mowing take longer. Our property takes 2.5 hours to mow, which is mainly handled by my son for his pocket money and is done once per week in the summer, once every other week as winter approaches and can be left alone for about 3 months over winter. A brand new ride on mower is $4500-$6500 and 2nd hand for $2000-$4000.  A larger tractor with mowing deck, 4WD and faster is $23k ! though my friend picked one up from auction at $8k and apparently that kind of equipment is available at auction every week, so I will look for that when having larger acreage so it takes only 2 hours instead of 5.

The negative side of larger acreage - apart taking longer to mow - is that you could be further away from a village, and children might be less inclined to ride to the village on their bike,  it will cost a little more to maintain. Larger house almost certainly means loads of lights meaning bigger electricity bill. Also sharing lifts for school /football /youth club might be more awkward than in a more concentrated area - .... !  However once a large acreage estate is established, you are in a community all of its own hopefully with nearby friends.

Consider the issues that accompany steep blocks. The cost per acre is less, but the building costs and future extensions will be more.   Inevitably a cut and fill operation is required to create a level area – resulting in a bank behind the house and a bank in front, which in turn will have water runoff issues. The steeper the original land and the wider the house, will result in higher bank / cliff-like front. Foundations for the house will be steeper, access, drainage problems behind the house – subsequent landscaping for gardens all present extra complications and cost, with less usable land for recreation, pool, patios, extensions, shed etc.  Mountain top blocks afford the best views, and often provide the largest amounts of land – perhaps 10 – 40 acres, but even with landscaping taken into account you may only achieve a half to one acre of useable land.

 

Maintenance

Obviously there is work to be done on acreage, mainly mowing, but also preventing vines and "lantana" from growing near the fenceline, and preventing or pulling weeds. Once it's under control, just mowing, some strimming, and occasionally spraying is all that's needed.... oh and if you have hedges, obviously some hedge trimming.  Trees will shed the odd branch particularly during a storm, so a small chain saw is good too...

So the essentials which you’d need to budget for are:

                        Sprayer /weedkiller (8l carry around is probably OK - 15l backpacks are available but cause back ache!)

                        Hedge trimmer (good to get one with rotating handle)

                        Whippersnipper (strimmer/brush cutter)

                        Small Chainsaw (less essential but trees drop branches in storms and need trimming beyond the capability of the hedge trimmer)

                        Blower/Vaccuum (not essential, occasionally useful )

                        Pressure Washer (keep those patios clean!) and make sure you get a powerful one !

A ride-on mower

A catcher for the rideon mower (optional, I don’t have one – you can just spray the cut grass out to the side and it disappears into the grass)

                        And of course large wheelbarrow

                        General tools

In England I loathed gardening and simply didn’t do any and never picked up a power tool!   Yet I find all of this very enjoyable now because it just looks so good when it's all mowed and tidy... it's healthy, it's warm and it really is quite easy after all...it really doesn't consume much time and you could get your child to mow (my son did it from 11 years old) for some pocket money.  In fact due to the mower running costs, servicing, depreciation, petrol and your own time, it can be around the same cost to have someone over with their equipment rather than to do it yourself. However, when owning a rideon mower, you can get the mowing done whenever you want, rather than having to rely on a chap who fails to turn up (and typically not let you know) just before you have guests, when you wanted it all to look nice!

About the Samford area

Samford Valley comprises Samford Village, Samford Downs, Highvale, Camp Mountain, Wight's Mountain. Anyone of these areas is a great place to live, with Samford Village close by providing their central facilities.

Samford Village is situated just outside Brisbane, though only 30mins to city centre. Large supermarket, bakery, coffee shops, fantastic pub, restaurant, about 4 estate agents, PO, several hair dressers, smart high street, gym (under refurbishment at last!), butcher, gift stores, restaurant, Chinese, Indian, Garage (does small pizzas),  ANZ bank,  Commonwealth Bank ATM (cashpoint) in newsagency, video rental, dentist, doctor, childcare centre, playgroup, 5mins walk to primary school.

Samford Downs – Drive past Samford Village up Mount Glorious Road. After 5 mins, turn into Samford Downs. A huge housing area – established 8 years ago – and still growing though it must be running out of space soon. All underground power and with town water (mains). Stage 8G opening up now, 1 acre lots available. Wonderful variety of houses, – minimum size is specified so it’s an upmarket area. Mountain views everywhere. Just 5 mins from Samford Village at one end, up to 10 mins from the area that is presently selling land.  (Samford Downs is so large that it seems strange to think of it as an "estate" but it is called that nonetheless.. not what you would call an estate in England!).

Highvale. Drive up past Samford downs and the area is called Highvale, all the way up to the foot of Mount Glorious. It is about 10mins from the village and has some larger acreages. The road then goes up the mountain where you can reach Mount Glorious and travel on to Mount Nebo.

Camp Mountain - great acreage close to Samford village

Wights Mountain with yet more acreage.. close to the village

Cedar Creek/Closeburn - Drive out beyond Samford village, not west up Mount Glorious Road, through Highvale towards Mount Glorious to get to Samford Downs, but instead through the Samford High St, north out towards Dayboro.  Just 5 minutes out you turn left down Cedar Creek Road, which stretches on for miles. The first part of the road is the "Closeburn" area, and then it becomes Cedar Creek which is 10-15 mins out depending how far down the road you are.. The road is actually a dead end and arrives at the foot of Mount Glorious where there's a nice forest walk with climbing up by the waterfalls. I heard that on a few occasions that cars have been broken into at the end of the deadend road.  There's no estate area down there, nor shopping facilities (they would use Samford) - and the further down the road you go the more isolated you are of course. I'm not sure if there's land available but I expect there will be individuals selling property.  There's bound to be space out there and nice if you want to be a little further out from the village

Samsonvale - .... Further past Cedar Creek, about 10-15 mins out of the village is Samsonvale. There’s a new land development just off "Winn Road" which looks like it will be like Samford Downs to me, except the minimum plot is 5 acres so it will all be considerably more spaced out. It is a vast valley with hilly terrain, no houses yet, with cul-de-sacs, underground power and storm water drainage infrastructure. Nice plots there are were $180k-$185k in 2002 and I wastempted myself though we're not sure if we want to be more than twice the distance from the village. The distance is fine for driving, but perhaps a bit far for teenagers on bikes. These are now more like $350k in 2004.

Dayboro. You can go quite a lot further past Samsonvale and reach the village of Dayboro; it's a good 25 mins from Samford meaning 55 mins from the city... a quiet olde-worlde village which is experiencing huge growth due to acreage areas becoming available. It really is a long way out, but then again, perhaps that's the whole point!

Upper Kedron : The usual journey out of Samford towards the city (30 mins away) takes you Souteast through "The Range", a road through the forest which winds up the hill and back down again unil you reach the suburb of Ferny Grove (where the high school is). To the south of this forest is an area called "Upper Kedron" with acreage properties within the forest, some on steep terrain.

Bunya is an area between Eatons Hill and Ferny Hills - there is acreage there and I have seen one or two smaller estates in there. I haven't really seen much of Bunya but I believe there is shopping complex somewhere there as opposed to a village. 

Other areas a reasonable distance from Samford to the northwest are Yugar, Draper, Bunya, Clear Mountain, Cashmere, Warner and Eatons Hill - before reach the densely populated suburbs again (Albany Creek).

Mt Glorious & Nebo. Travelling west from the village takes you past Samford Downs, through Highvale and then winding up the mountain road to reach either Mount Glorious on the right, or for a longer trek, turn left and reach Mount Nebo.

To decide on the areas you like you really need to drive around these areas and decide if want to live amongst a collection of large houses on 1-3 acres, or prefer more isolated pockets of acreage, perhaps in a cul de sac, with various types of housing.  There will always be nice areas in each location. The areas outside of Samford may have more land but may be more isolated which can mean less access to friends for your children without plenty of car journeys.

Maps

When I originally heard about Samford, it frustrated me when I just couldn't see it anywhere on a map of Brisbane. The maps of Brisbane e.g. Ourbrisbane often showed just the different council areas of Brisbane, and not outer suburbs. Samford is off the map.. just west of Ferny Grove. In fact, Samford is actually in the Pine Rivers shire, not Brisbane even though it is a lot closer than some other suburbs that are still in Brisbane.

Since we moved here I've found some other maps : Try looking at Multimap but the best map is at whereis.com.au as it clearly shows which areas are built up and which are rural.

This map shows Samford and surrounding areas; Dayboro is off the map to the north.

The following map shows Samford Village in relation to the centre of Brisbane... Samford is top right... the city is bottom left, north of the river.

 

Airconditioning

Re aircon - it's amazing how few houses have it, even though we only use it ourselves when it's around 34 degrees or over, or when the air is unusually still at lower temps. It's even more amazing how Brisbane residents put up with the cold in the winter. Typically if you don't have central aircon, a woodfire or gas fire in the central living area would be used - and maybe an infrared heating bulb in the b